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Hey all!

Making my first post since I've been lurking in this and other forums for a while getting info on tire sizes, wheels, etc for the LX700h. I am based in I owned an LC250 for two years and back in June jumped into the change of purchasing a 2026 LX700h Overtrail 5 seater. So far I love the truck, sans a few issues widely discussed around here (small gas tank, packaging). Definitely feels like a massive upgrade over the LC250 platform.

This past weekend I upsized the tires to 285/70/R18s on the factory wheels, installed rock sliders and went a bit overboard with the tire shine. :LOL:.

Looking forward to contributing to the forums!
 

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Hello @josehp603 welcome to the site. You picked my favorite color on the LX and GX series, gorgeous vehicle. Tire combo looks great, glad to have you aboard. Hope you post more!
 
Thanks! It's a stunning color for sure!
 
Did you have OE tires long enough to compare and contrast; DB levels, ride quality, gas mileage changes, etc.?
 
Did you have OE tires long enough to compare and contrast; DB levels, ride quality, gas mileage changes, etc.?
Not really I only drove it for 2k miles with the original tires and just got these. I’m running them at 38psi and they are still harsher than the original tires since these are class E, but not by much. Noise level I feel it’s the same.
 
Do they rub at any level anywhere? Or can you not make them rub under any circumstances?
 
Do they rub at any level anywhere? Or can you not make them rub under any circumstances?
This tire size does not rub at all, it’s probably the biggest you can go without having to make any modifications. There is a spreadsheet in ih8mud forums that has input on various tire sizes and wheel combinations and modifications required. I used that to make a decision on which tires to get.

Tbh these look nice but I am not sure if it was worth doing. The size difference is pretty minimal compared to the stock ones.
 
This tire size does not rub at all, it’s probably the biggest you can go without having to make any modifications. There is a spreadsheet in ih8mud forums that has input on various tire sizes and wheel combinations and modifications required. I used that to make a decision on which tires to get.

Tbh these look nice but I am not sure if it was worth doing. The size difference is pretty minimal compared to the stock ones.

Edit: Removed, already answered. Thanks for the info!!
 
Edit: Removed, already answered. Thanks for the info!!
Sure! The ride noise is close to or the same, hard to tell. The ride quality difference it’s a little bit more noticeable since these tires are class E
 
BTW, congratulations. There are kind of 3 levels of off road vehicles for Toyota although I don't think you will find this chart anywhere. First, in underdeveloped and third World countries spattered across the globe they sell the Hilux or Foretuner, a value model mass produced bare bones utility. In mid level economic countries and countries that do not have the high requirements we have in the US (like safety, emissions, etc.) they sell the Prado/250, that vehicle is a value model also mass produced at the Tahara Plant for the Worldwide market. Finally, there is the LC300 (currently) Land Cruiser which is nearly hand built at the Yosiwara plant by artisans handpicked by Toyota, it is a generational honor for any Japanese citizen to work at this plant and only the best get to do so. All parts in the LC 300 are only found in the LC 300: glass, tie rods, etc., etc. You might hear the LC 300 has the same parts as the Tundra, but they were not built in the same place, just designed the same! Because they are nearly hand built they are very expensive initially and therefore only sold in so called first World or highly developed markets (one could argue with a duty cycle of 500,000 v 250,000 on the Prado they are less expensive in the long run). From what I can tell the reason the LC 300 is not sold in the US is because the LC 200 sales were poor, few thousand units. Sales were low because they were so expensive in the US. They were very expensive because of the stringent safety and emission rules in the US. That is why they tried to pass off a worldwide value model (Prado/250) for the US as a Land Cruiser, which in the spirit of keeping it real is definitely not! The great news is the LC 300 LX 700h is a real Land Cruiser! On top of that some things (until recently) are/were only available on the US LX700h, that is the hybrid variant, again, until recently you could not get one anywhere else in the World. People have a nostalgia for old V8's but your LX 700h is the most powerful gas Land Cruiser ever made by a long shot, period! There is a diesel twin turbo that is 650 pd ft but you could never buy that in the US. Yours has nearly 600 pd ft of torque v the previous 200 that has only 400 pd ft. You also get a cabin with 54 db level at 60 mph. Betting the internet darling 70 series is more like hearing the Who live in 1969. We went to a dealer who had many GX's and saved an LX 700 for us on its arrival to test drive, we drove the GX/Prado first but it was lights out once we got in the LX. At any level, by any sense, it was clear there was no way to draw any objective comparison other than both have 4wd and 4 doors. Enjoy your new ride.
 
BTW, congratulations. There are kind of 3 levels of off road vehicles for Toyota although I don't think you will find this chart anywhere. First, in underdeveloped and third World countries spattered across the globe they sell the Hilux or Foretuner, a value model mass produced bare bones utility. In mid level economic countries and countries that do not have the high requirements we have in the US (like safety, emissions, etc.) they sell the Prado/250, that vehicle is a value model also mass produced at the Tahara Plant for the Worldwide market. Finally, there is the LC300 (currently) Land Cruiser which is nearly hand built at the Yosiwara plant by artisans handpicked by Toyota, it is a generational honor for any Japanese citizen to work at this plant and only the best get to do so. All parts in the LC 300 are only found in the LC 300: glass, tie rods, etc., etc. You might hear the LC 300 has the same parts as the Tundra, but they were not built in the same place, just designed the same! Because they are nearly hand built they are very expensive initially and therefore only sold in so called first World or highly developed markets (one could argue with a duty cycle of 500,000 v 250,000 on the Prado they are less expensive in the long run). From what I can tell the reason the LC 300 is not sold in the US is because the LC 200 sales were poor, few thousand units. Sales were low because they were so expensive in the US. They were very expensive because of the stringent safety and emission rules in the US. That is why they tried to pass off a worldwide value model (Prado/250) for the US as a Land Cruiser, which in the spirit of keeping it real is definitely not! The great news is the LC 300 LX 700h is a real Land Cruiser! On top of that some things (until recently) are/were only available on the US LX700h, that is the hybrid variant, again, until recently you could not get one anywhere else in the World. People have a nostalgia for old V8's but your LX 700h is the most powerful gas Land Cruiser ever made by a long shot, period! There is a diesel twin turbo that is 650 pd ft but you could never buy that in the US. Yours has nearly 600 pd ft of torque v the previous 200 that has only 400 pd ft. You also get a cabin with 54 db level at 60 mph. Betting the internet darling 70 series is more like hearing the Who live in 1969. We went to a dealer who had many GX's and saved an LX 700 for us on its arrival to test drive, we drove the GX/Prado first but it was lights out once we got in the LX. At any level, by any sense, it was clear there was no way to draw any objective comparison other than both have 4wd and 4 doors. Enjoy your new ride
Really appreciate the detailed writeup, thank you for taking the time. This is exactly the kind of context I was hoping to find when I made the jump.

Good catch on the plant split too — most people don't realize Yoshiwara is where the hand-finished stuff happens versus the Tahara/Hamura mass production for the Prado/250. That distinction explains a lot about why the fit and finish feels so different between trims, even ones that share a platform on paper.

The power comparison really puts it in perspective. Going from the old LX570/LC200's V8 up to what the 700h is doing now is a real generational leap, not just a marketing bump. And it's wild that after all these years of people online romanticizing the overseas diesel, the hybrid we actually get here in the US ends up being the stronger unit. Kind of validates sticking with the home-market car instead of chasing the grass-is-greener import fantasy.

The reasoning on why the LC300 never came stateside makes sense too. The LX quietly carrying the full-size flagship role solo for years, then Toyota bringing back a cheaper Land Cruiser for the buyers priced out of the LX, lines up with how the 250 has taken off here compared to how slow the old LC200 sold.









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OK folks...I believe the REAL REASON the 200-series, and now 310-series do not sell well IN THE US is: 1. 95% of US new car buyers have NO IDEA what a "Land Cruiser is or what it gets you". And the 1% that do will say they don't need that extra build quality, off-road capability, especially for the extra cost vs others. Then the other 4% will pop for the Cruiser. 2. The Land Cruisers are SMALLER than the competition. US buyers want space. Family buyers want LOTS of extra space. Cruisers don't have that. Tahoes, Expeditions, and the like do and for FAR LESS cash. So overall the Cruiser loses the sale right at the start.
The 100-series sold very well because competition was a bit different back then. And the competing models were not gargantuan inside compared to the 100's. But not the case from the intro of 200 and on.
Last...don't fall prey to the statements that "the new Cruisers are priced right out of it and are too expensive compared to what they used to cost." WRONG! If you consider the cost of inflation adjustment they are priced pretty much the same. Example...I paid $61K for my new 2001 Cruiser. The adjustment today says it would cost $116,000. What does the LX600-700h cost? Uh ha...right in line. Same for the 200. Take say a 2010. The MSRP was $66K...let's say $70K with options. Calculated...$108K value today.
But again...IN THE US...most folks want SIZE for LESS.
 
OK folks...I believe the REAL REASON the 200-series, and now 310-series do not sell well IN THE US is: 1. 95% of US new car buyers have NO IDEA what a "Land Cruiser is or what it gets you". And the 1% that do will say they don't need that extra build quality, off-road capability, especially for the extra cost vs others. Then the other 4% will pop for the Cruiser. 2. The Land Cruisers are SMALLER than the competition. US buyers want space. Family buyers want LOTS of extra space. Cruisers don't have that. Tahoes, Expeditions, and the like do and for FAR LESS cash. So overall the Cruiser loses the sale right at the start.
The 100-series sold very well because competition was a bit different back then. And the competing models were not gargantuan inside compared to the 100's. But not the case from the intro of 200 and on.
Last...don't fall prey to the statements that "the new Cruisers are priced right out of it and are too expensive compared to what they used to cost." WRONG! If you consider the cost of inflation adjustment they are priced pretty much the same. Example...I paid $61K for my new 2001 Cruiser. The adjustment today says it would cost $116,000. What does the LX600-700h cost? Uh ha...right in line. Same for the 200. Take say a 2010. The MSRP was $66K...let's say $70K with options. Calculated...$108K value today.
But again...IN THE US...most folks want SIZE for LESS.
Agreed! And, viewing initial price is very shortsighted. The (albeit unpublished) duty cycle on the LX 700h Overtrail is app. 500,000 miles. The duty cycle on a Cadillac Escalade is 250,000 (but even that is a gift given the lack of craftsmanship, engineering and manufacturing expertise and quility control). Let's consider two likely outcomes, insert whatever mileage you want. First you keep it for 500,000 miles. To keep things simple lets not include maintenance however maintenance will be lower on an LC300 LX 700h given the engineering, quality control and the fact they are nearly hand built by the best of the best Toyota has. $118,000 cost and you drive 500,000 miles assuming you drive 15,000 miles per year is 33 years, that's $3,600 a year. Cadillac Escalades sell for a whopping $170,000 on average top trim, they will be lucky to make it to 250,000 and at 15,000 miles that's 17 years, or $10,000 a year. More likely the 2nd thing happens and the original owner sells after 5 years. The escalade will lose 60% of it's value in those 5 years or $100,000 or annually $20,000. The LX will lose 43% of its original value or $47,000 in five years or $9,400 a year. And even if you are one who does not care about money, under any circumstance of duress you can be assured the LC300 will not let you down, the same cannot be said of the Cadillac even on pavement.
 

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